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Sources: 436 Holy, 2,675 Prot, 7,143 Ret and 51 PvP messages from September 16 at 15:10 to September 18 at 03:10. The Ret file was read in three parts and the Prot file in two, with the Q&A window, the beta-opening window and the first hands-on reports read directly. Roughly half of Ret and a third of Prot was off-topic (blue elf lore, queue jokes, standing desks, anime profile pictures, a twisting flame war with no new information).

• Beta status. Confirmed badges on the spec pages mark reads from the level 20 beta client on September 17, all at level 10 or lower in starter gear. Seal of Righteousness’s 20 to 25% coefficient rests on one tester’s Judgement of the Crusader test and is marked changed on the tracker rather than confirmed. Holy ShieldHoly ShieldProtection · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic150 Mana | Instant | 10 sec cooldownIncreases chance to block by 20% for 10 sec, and deals 110 Holy damage for each attack blocked while active. Damage caused by Holy Shield causes 20% additional threat. Each block expends a charge. 4 charges.Requires 30 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Templar's Bulwark · Requires ShieldsAll ranks read from demo footage.’s charges and Exorcism’s targeting are datamine reads and stay untested.
• Q&A. No VOD link or timestamp was posted in any channel, so the takeaways (swing timer, no GDKP, Reals, Oceanic servers, RMT bans, Season of Discovery class quests, realmless tech) are recorded as relayed, with the announcement link. The beta notes post exists only as a screenshot; the VengeanceVengeanceRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Physical and Holy damage dealt by 1% for 30 sec after landing a critical strike. Stacks up to 5 times.Requires 20 points in Retribution · Requires 3 points in Sanctified JudgementMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. line is quoted verbatim from the channel’s transcription.
• Builds converted. The Holy channel’s Wowhead link (v1255003013000121—0520503020122303) was rebuilt from its digits with the build command because the converter does not parse Wowhead’s format; the forever.oxm.gg link converted directly. Both pass at 51 points.
• Superseded claims moved here. “Holy Strike is an on-next-swing ability like Heroic Strike” (Ret, September 16): wrong, it is an instant. “Seal of Righteousness scales at about 10% per hit” (Ret and Prot, demo read): one beta test says 20 to 25%. “Spamming Judgement of Fury applies taunt diminishing returns” (Prot, September 15): taunt diminishing returns are a TBC mechanic. “Seal of Righteousness cannot crit” (Classic assumption): it crits for double. “Blizzard does not want a swing timer” (Ret, from the Ion and Holly interview): still their stated reason for cutting twisting, but the base UI now has one.
• Not added. The Hammer of the Righteous tooltip in the client files, the datamined any-target Exorcism, the 16% Pursuit of JusticePursuit of JusticeRetribution · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicIncreases movement speed and mounted movement speed by 8%. This does not stack with other movement speed increasing effects.Requires 10 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. read and every set bonus are recorded as datamine or one-person reads, not as facts. Datamined set art, mounts and creature models were skipped as not class knowledge.

Sources: 628 Holy, 1,900 Prot, 5,355 Ret and 18 PvP messages from September 15 at 14:30 to September 16 at 15:10. Roughly half of the Ret and Prot traffic was off-topic (lore, TBC guild drama, a channel-rename joke, AI arguments).

• Prot. Links posted and verified: Solid Prot 8/34/9 (“looks like a bis talent”), Block Prot 8/36/7 (Wowhead, converted), Threat Prot 2/32/17, Pursuit Prot 4/31/16, four Holy ShockHoly ShockHoly · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic160 Mana | Instant | Enemy: 20 yd range | Friendly: 40 yd range | 10 sec cooldownBlasts the target with Holy energy, causing 129 to 139 Holy damage to an enemy, or 110 to 118 healing to an ally.Requires 20 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. tanks (21/21/9, 26/25/0, two at 21/30/0, one converted from Wowhead), Champion Prot 2/21/28, Intellect Threat Tank 0/23/28 (wowforevertalents, rebuilt from its point list because the converter misread the encoding), VengeanceVengeanceRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Physical and Holy damage dealt by 1% for 30 sec after landing a critical strike. Stacks up to 5 times.Requires 20 points in Retribution · Requires 3 points in Sanctified JudgementMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. Tank 2/26/23. The reconstructed Shock Prot (21) is marked superseded. Point-split debates added: One-Handed Weapon SpecializationOne-Handed Weapon SpecializationProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage you deal with one-handed melee weapons by 3%.Requires 15 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. versus ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., Divine StrengthDivine StrengthHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your Strength by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage. versus Divine IntellectDivine IntellectHoly · Max rank 5 · Same as ClassicIncreases your total Intellect by 10%.All ranks read from demo footage., Holy ConduitHoly ConduitRetribution · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverReduces the mana cost of your Consecration, Holy Wrath, Exorcism, and Hammer of Wrath spells by 20%.Requires 5 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.’s 7 points, Shield SpecializationShield SpecializationProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the amount of damage absorbed by your shield by 10%, and gives your blocks a 33% chance to restore 6% of your maximum Mana. May only occur once every 3 sec.Requires 10 points in Protection · Requires 5 points in RedoubtMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 2/3, Iron CreedIron CreedProtection · Max rank 5 · New in ForeverIncreases the threat generated by your Holy Strike ability 5%. While Righteous Fury is active, Holy Strike also reduces your damage taken by 2% for 6 sec.Requires 25 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. without Holy ShieldHoly ShieldProtection · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic150 Mana | Instant | 10 sec cooldownIncreases chance to block by 20% for 10 sec, and deals 110 Holy damage for each attack blocked while active. Damage caused by Holy Shield causes 20% additional threat. Each block expends a charge. 4 charges.Requires 30 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Templar's Bulwark · Requires ShieldsAll ranks read from demo footage., moving Holy ShieldHoly ShieldProtection · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic150 Mana | Instant | 10 sec cooldownIncreases chance to block by 20% for 10 sec, and deals 110 Holy damage for each attack blocked while active. Damage caused by Holy Shield causes 20% additional threat. Each block expends a charge. 4 charges.Requires 30 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Templar's Bulwark · Requires ShieldsAll ranks read from demo footage. up the tree. Demo tester’s Drowned City report added. Gameplay trailer spell block noted. Legacy points: at least 10 earnable by leveling every class to 5 (relayed). Blizzard: no Shaman or Warlock tank at launch, no raid test realm, launch raid sizes (10-man with 8 bosses, 20-man with 13, Onyxia 40), tier split across raids, first raid revamp next summer.
• Holy. IlluminationIlluminationHoly · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicAfter getting a critical effect from your Flash of Light, Holy Light, Light's Vigil, or Holy Shock heal spell you have a 40% chance to gain Mana equal to 50% of the base cost of the spell.Requires 15 points in Holy · Requires 3 points in ReverenceMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 2 text. tooltip lists Light’s Vigil; Vigil heals can crit; Vigil on an enemy reads as damage plus a 75% Holy ShockHoly ShockHoly · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic160 Mana | Instant | Enemy: 20 yd range | Friendly: 40 yd range | 10 sec cooldownBlasts the target with Holy energy, causing 129 to 139 Holy damage to an enemy, or 110 to 118 healing to an ally.Requires 20 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. refund; Holy ShockHoly ShockHoly · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic160 Mana | Instant | Enemy: 20 yd range | Friendly: 40 yd range | 10 sec cooldownBlasts the target with Holy energy, causing 129 to 139 Holy damage to an enemy, or 110 to 118 healing to an ally.Requires 20 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage. 10-second cooldown and 20 yards. The Vigil argument, Wild Growth comparison and the “gambling on precast” objection are in the Vigil section. Consensus shift: Champion of the LightChampion of the LightRetribution · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your spell damage and healing by up to 33% of your Intellect.Requires 25 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. is an outlier that will be nerfed to damage only. ReverenceReverenceHoly · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverAllows 30% of your Mana regeneration to continue while casting.Requires 10 points in HolyThis rank read from footage; other ranks estimated. is the most-requested deletion. Q&A link and the “Blizzard wanted to avoid a beta” relay added. Enchanting formulas link added.
• Ret. Firsthand: deep dive 49:35 and the no-commentary 40:59 paladin section; Q&A announcement and question thread; Ion and Holly interview; Kotaku on no flex. Tooltip reads: echo fires on white hits only, no double judge, “different seal” blocks downrank twists, Seal of Righteousness crits with spell crit, Holy Strike 42% weapon plus 17 to 21 holy, Light’s Vigil 730 mana, VindicationVindicationRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicGives your damaging melee attacks a chance to reduce the target's Attack Power by 42, and increase your Attack Power by 1% for 30 sec.Requires 10 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 3% attack power plus a 142 debuff, VengeanceVengeanceRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Physical and Holy damage dealt by 1% for 30 sec after landing a critical strike. Stacks up to 5 times.Requires 20 points in Retribution · Requires 3 points in Sanctified JudgementMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 30 seconds, Eye for an EyeEye for an EyeRetribution · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicAll critical strikes against you cause 5% of the damage taken to the attacker as well. The damage caused by Eye for an Eye will not exceed 50% of the Paladin's total health.Requires 15 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. on all crits, ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. one strike per two reads. Shockadin two-spare-points choice (Consecrated GroundConsecrated GroundHoly · Max rank 2 · New in ForeverGives your Holy spells 5% increased damage against the first 4 enemies that enter your Consecration.Requires 20 points in HolyMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. versus Divine PrecisionDivine PrecisionHoly · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your chance to hit with Holy spells by 6%.Requires 20 points in Holy · Requires 1 point in Holy ShockMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. 2/3) from a top Season of Discovery Shockadin. Leveling priority added. Mood tally (70% dooming). Art of War-style proc-reset request and capstone replacement proposals added. September 16 screenshot builds summarised without links. Items: new proc shield, three librams, Spellblasting enchant, Fishliver Oil, bank 96 slots, chase items per boss, obfuscated items.
• PvP. Seals dispellable (screenshot); Dishonorable Kills; Season of Discovery Shockadin was strong in duels but different.
• Overview. Tldr rewritten; What’s new; Q&A and raid sizes in key dates; open question 13 (off-tank mana); quick facts for Holy ShockHoly ShockHoly · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic160 Mana | Instant | Enemy: 20 yd range | Friendly: 40 yd range | 10 sec cooldownBlasts the target with Holy energy, causing 129 to 139 Holy damage to an enemy, or 110 to 118 healing to an ally.Requires 20 points in HolyAll ranks read from demo footage., Seal of Righteousness crits, Edgemaster’s, chase items, bank slots.
• Builds. Tank pick moved from Deep Prot (20) to Solid Prot (36); Prot table now 16 rows; Ret table 12 rows.
• Beta tracker. Rows for seal dispel, Seal of Fury flat damage, RedoubtRedoubtProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicDamaging melee attacks against you have a 10% chance to increase your chance to block by 6%. Lasts 10 sec or 5 blocks.Max rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text., ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and Seal of Fury, One-Handed Weapon SpecializationOne-Handed Weapon SpecializationProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the damage you deal with one-handed melee weapons by 3%.Requires 15 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. and seals, Judgement and RepentanceRepentanceRetribution · Max rank 1 · Moved60 Mana | Instant | 20 yd range | 1 min cooldownPuts the enemy target in a state of meditation, incapacitating them for up to 6 sec. Any damage caused will awaken the target. Only works against Humanoids.Requires 20 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage., echo direction.

One-time relink. Every build link on the site now points at talentsforever.com and was verified by the conversion tool as 51 points with prerequisites satisfied. No new channel messages were read for this entry.

• Converted 12 links from other calculators (railway, wowforevertalents, forever.oxm.gg) and normalized two talentsforever links that used the old hash form: Three-Tree Ret and its revised version, Stun Burst Ret, Shock Ret, ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. Bulwark, Holy/Prot Shockadin draft, the Prot day-one placeholder, PrecisionPrecisionProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your chance to hit with all spells and attacks by 1%.Requires 5 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. Ret, Day-one Twist Ret and its variant, Intellect Hybrid, Deep Vigil Shockadin, and the Holy channel’s September 15 Champion Healer (build 32, renamed “Strike variant”). Splits re-read from the digits: ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. Bulwark is exactly 4/26/21 (was “about”), the Prot placeholder exactly 8/36/7.
• Two links already on talentsforever.com failed verification and were repaired from the recorded point lists: Melee Shockadin (build 6) carried 54 points and an over-max Unyielding FaithUnyielding FaithHoly · Max rank 2 · Changed from ClassicReduces the duration of Fear and Disorient effects on you by 15%.Requires 5 points in HolyMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.; Two-Hander Hybrid (build 8) did not meet the Two-Handed Specialization prerequisite. Both verdicts say what changed.
• Reconstructed six builds that had no link: Deep Prot (8/36/7), Shock Prot (23/28/0), VengeanceVengeanceRetribution · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases your Physical and Holy damage dealt by 1% for 30 sec after landing a critical strike. Stacks up to 5 times.Requires 20 points in Retribution · Requires 3 points in Sanctified JudgementMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. Prot (0/28/23), and three Ret point-list builds now in the table as rows 33 to 35 (Hit-Gear Twist Ret 7/8/36, Panel Shockadin 21/0/30, Endgame Ret without Pursuit 15/0/36). Each is labelled “reconstructed” with the filler points named.
• Two builds have no point information: the Prot Spell Power Tank (screenshot only) and the Ret one-hander Seal of Fury concept (image only). Both now say “no point list was posted”. The Hyjal Shockadin stays on hyjal.cc because its encoding cannot be converted.
• Build 32’s verdict now compares it point for point with build 1, which the shared encoding makes possible. The Twist Ret row drops its duplicate forever.oxm.gg link (same digits).

Sources: 24 Holy, 165 Prot, 459 Ret and 13 PvP messages from roughly 11:00 to 14:30. The Ret channel was almost entirely off-topic (lore, races, the channel being jokingly renamed “forever-cleric”).

• Holy: one more 23/0/28 link added as build 32 (wowforevertalents). The channel’s working split is 23/0/28 for raids and deep Holy for 5-mans. New argument section: whether Champion of the LightChampion of the LightRetribution · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your spell damage and healing by up to 33% of your Intellect.Requires 25 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. should be cut to spell damage only, or whether the Holy tree is the thing that needs fixing. Champion noted as one of only two stat-conversion talents in the demo trees.
• Prot: beta cap corrected to 20 at start and 30 after about two weeks (was “level 30 cap”). Mood tilted positive (“insanely good”, “tankier than ever”). The Judgement-taunt “bad design” consensus is now contested by a vocal group; the tank-swap answer is to sit in Righteousness and macro Seal of Fury, Swift JudgementSwift JudgementProtection · Max rank 1 · New in ForeverInstant | 1 min cooldownFinishes the remaining cooldown on your Judgement ability and reduces the Mana cost of your next Judgement by 100%.Requires 15 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Improved Seal of FuryAll ranks read from demo footage., Judgement. Judgement of Fury and Righteousness read as near-identical damage. Retail-style Consecration threat multiplier ruled out by the channel.
• Prot: Kotaku reports addons will be restricted like retail. Whether a threat API survives is an open question that affects the pinned beta test plan. Link added to Sources.
• PvP: one person attributes the death of Classic twisting to 0.1-second spell batching (was 0.4). Seals reportedly still purgeable. Stun removal may share a cooldown with Blessing of Protection (guess).
• Ret: the announcement trailer’s talent tree matches the demo except the bottom Ret row, where the capstone is absent and icons differ. Gearing read: Intellect-only plate gives spell power if Champion is 100%, Kings adds more. Weapon-squish theory now has two backers and new Wowhead data points; the counter remains that Wowhead bulk-copied its database. Blizzard’s “small vertical progression between tiers” line added as a relayed statement.
• Overview: addon restriction added as open question 12; quick facts for batching, the conversion-talent count and the trailer tree.

2026-09-15 (Retribution pass)

• Retribution page seeded from the first four days of #forever-ret (15,862 messages). Seven builds added to the build table as rows 25 to 31; the Sword-and-Board Shockadin (row 7) also came from this channel.
• Twist of LightTwist of LightRetribution · Max rank 1 · New in ForeverWhen you replace your Seal of Command, Seal of Righteousness, Seal of Fury, or Seal of Justice with a different Seal, gain an Echo. Your next melee attack applies the replaced Seal's effects, consuming the Echo.Requires 30 points in Retribution · Requires Level 40All ranks read from demo footage. read from tooltips and streams: the 31-point capstone stores the previous seal as an echo that fires on the next auto attack. One echo, no expiry, consumed by the first melee hit, cannot be judged, does not proc other seals. Echo direction is disputed between two testers. Classic-style twisting was tested and does not work without it.
• Rotation as understood: alternate rank 1 Seal of CommandSeal of CommandRetribution · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic65 Mana | InstantGives the Paladin a chance to deal additional Holy damage equal to 70% of normal weapon damage. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time. Lasts 30 sec. Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy, instantly causing 68 to 73 Holy damage, 137 to 146 if the target is stunned or incapacitated.Requires 10 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage. and Seal of Righteousness every swing, Judgement on cooldown (judge Righteousness), Holy Strike every 10 seconds, Hammer of Wrath in execute, Consecration only if mana allows. The reveal-night reading that fillers beat resealing was superseded by “seal first, every swing.”
• Holy Strike numbers: 25% weapon damage at rank 1, 40% on the deep-dive slide, plus flat holy; 12-second cooldown, 10 talented; tested not to trigger seals. Damage type and normalization disputed.
• Sanctified JudgementSanctified JudgementRetribution · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverGives your Judgement ability a 100% chance to return 60% of the Mana cost of the judged seal.Requires 10 points in RetributionThis rank read from footage; other ranks estimated. refunds 60% of the seal’s cost (an earlier 20% read was wrong). Seal of CommandSeal of CommandRetribution · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic65 Mana | InstantGives the Paladin a chance to deal additional Holy damage equal to 70% of normal weapon damage. Only one Seal can be active on the Paladin at any one time. Lasts 30 sec. Unleashing this Seal's energy will judge an enemy, instantly causing 68 to 73 Holy damage, 137 to 146 if the target is stunned or incapacitated.Requires 10 points in RetributionAll ranks read from demo footage. is 70% weapon plus 20% spell damage. Seal of Righteousness scales with spell power at about 10% and can crit. Consecration rank 5 reads as about 320 to the first 4 targets versus 384 in Classic.
• One theorycrafter’s mana budget: about 34% of pool per minute, 39 to 41% with Hammer of Wrath; Consecration is the dominant cost. Demo Rets went dry only when spamming it.
• Blizzard statements added: “twist or shock” as the two Ret paths, Holy Strike 40% on the slide, Ret designed around 26 Ret points, ideal Ret gear “Strength and damage” with shared Ret/Shockadin gear, threat reduction because “Ret’s damage is as good as everyone else’s”, Consecration cap because tanks can only hold 3 or 4 targets.
• Beta cap revised to 20 at start rising to 30 (later Ret-channel read). Launch November 4, Onyxia and Hyjal December 9. World buffs do not work in raids (Savix clip). Blessings last 1 hour; resistance auras are raid-wide.
• Champion of the LightChampion of the LightRetribution · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your spell damage and healing by up to 33% of your Intellect.Requires 25 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.: the Ret channel reads 100% Intellect to spell power at 3/3, consistent with the Holy channel’s rank-1 “up to 33%”. Still unconfirmed; flagged on both pages.
• Sources gained three deep-dive uploads with timestamps, the beta opt-in, the Savix dungeon and world-buff clips, the hyjal.cc calculator, Wowhead Forever item entries, and a warning about the fake professions page on forever.oxm.gg.

2026-09-15 (Protection pass)

• Protection page seeded from the first four days of #forever-prot (4,129 messages). Five builds added to the build table as rows 20 to 24; only one is a link and its author disclaimed it.
• Tanking loop as currently understood: Seal of Righteousness as the main seal, judge on cooldown, swap to Seal of Fury only to taunt. This supersedes the day-one assumption that the main tank camps Seal of Fury.
• Judgement of Fury is the taunt (10-yard range, taunt diminishing returns if spammed). Swift JudgementSwift JudgementProtection · Max rank 1 · New in ForeverInstant | 1 min cooldownFinishes the remaining cooldown on your Judgement ability and reduces the Mana cost of your next Judgement by 100%.Requires 15 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Improved Seal of FuryAll ranks read from demo footage. resets Judgement on a 1-minute cooldown. Judgement is off the global cooldown and no longer consumes seals.
• Consecration is baseline and capped: full damage to 4 targets, about 80% less beyond. One tooltip read puts rank 2 at 80 to the first 4 and 24 to the rest, versus 120 in vanilla. Blizzard says the cap is deliberate.
• Holy ShieldHoly ShieldProtection · Max rank 1 · Changed from Classic150 Mana | Instant | 10 sec cooldownIncreases chance to block by 20% for 10 sec, and deals 110 Holy damage for each attack blocked while active. Damage caused by Holy Shield causes 20% additional threat. Each block expends a charge. 4 charges.Requires 30 points in Protection · Requires 1 point in Templar's Bulwark · Requires ShieldsAll ranks read from demo footage. read as +20% block (down from 30%), 4 charges, about double block damage. Templar’s Bulwark absorbs 100% of max health on a 5-minute cooldown. Improved Righteous FuryImproved Righteous FuryProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicWhile Righteous Fury is active, all damage taken is reduced by 2%.Requires 10 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. is now 6% damage reduction with no threat bonus; Righteous Fury is +90% threat baseline.
• RedoubtRedoubtProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicDamaging melee attacks against you have a 10% chance to increase your chance to block by 6%. Lasts 10 sec or 5 blocks.Max rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.’s first read (50% proc) superseded by 10% chance on being hit for +30% block over 5 blocks. ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.’s conflicting day-one reads settled on “about 40% on block, one extra swing.”
• Shield SpecializationShield SpecializationProtection · Max rank 3 · Changed from ClassicIncreases the amount of damage absorbed by your shield by 10%, and gives your blocks a 33% chance to restore 6% of your maximum Mana. May only occur once every 3 sec.Requires 10 points in Protection · Requires 5 points in RedoubtMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text. returns 6% max mana per block with a 3-second internal cooldown (one says 5). Mana is not expected to be the constraint.
• Seal of Fury absorb tested at about 11 damage at level 38, procs from auto attacks only, requires a shield, can be blocked through. Consensus that it will not stack.
• Blizzard statements relayed from the deep dive: tactical dungeons where CC and threat matter, AoE cut on purpose, “seal busywork is bad”, tanks should not get crit, all gear being redone, weapon skill reduced per item, spell power on items from level 10.
• Sources gained the Found Photos recap, the Aggrend tweet, a Legacy system clip, the Savix vendor VOD and the wowforevertalents calculator.

2026-09-15 (PvP pass)

• PvP page seeded from the first three days of #forever-pvp (310 messages). Nine builds added to the build table as rows 11 to 19.
• PvP systems as seen in the demo: one PvP mega realm with no war mode, honor-only ranks to 14 shown as a “0/250” bar, seasons that reset with new raids, an arena NPC that only queues Warsong Gulch.
• Twist of LightTwist of LightRetribution · Max rank 1 · New in ForeverWhen you replace your Seal of Command, Seal of Righteousness, Seal of Fury, or Seal of Justice with a different Seal, gain an Echo. Your next melee attack applies the replaced Seal's effects, consuming the Echo.Requires 30 points in Retribution · Requires Level 40All ranks read from demo footage. is the only way to twist; Classic-style twisting and ReckoningReckoningProtection · Max rank 5 · Changed from ClassicGives you a 8% chance to gain an extra attack after Blocking a melee attack and a 20% chance to gain an extra attack after being the victim of a non-periodic critical strike.Requires 20 points in ProtectionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.-plus-twisting both failed in the test. Rank 1 Command is assumed because max-rank twisting goes out of mana in about ten seconds.
• Holy Strike identified as a new holy-damage Ret strike on a 12-second cooldown. Normalization and spell power scaling are the open questions.
• Consensus that Ret/Holy beats Ret/Prot for PvP on the strength of silence immunity, fear reduction and self-heals. A later caveat notes the 6-second immunity is easy to play around.
• “Premier” honor vendor gear looked weaker than vanilla equivalents in demo screenshots. Healing pieces are named “Lamellar”; no spell-power set was seen.
• All Blizzard PvP statements are secondhand relays with no links; flagged as such on every page.

2026-09-15

• Site created. Holy page and build table seeded from the first three days of the Holy channel.
• Champion of the LightChampion of the LightRetribution · Max rank 3 · New in ForeverIncreases your spell damage and healing by up to 33% of your Intellect.Requires 25 points in RetributionMax rank not read from footage; showing rank 1 text.’s rank-1 tooltip (“up to 33% of Intellect”) identified as the unknown that decides the spec; the community had been arguing from both 33% and 100% without noticing.
• Blizzard’s deep-dive statements on Holy verified from the panel audio: best single-target healer, longest mana, limited party healing by design.
• Ret, Prot and PvP pages pending their first pass.